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Neckar Unrivaled
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 Re: GekiRanger 49 released
I just wanted it, I have to say it was a pretty good ending, I can see Long coming back in the Vs movie Goon vs Geki. I don't see him appearing in Geki vs Bouken. Reason I say this is because it appears from the previews its something new. Long may be in the movie however. I think Geki vs Bouken is taking place some times before the end of Geki, being that both Rio and Mele are alive. However vs movies never line up with the series anyways.
Okay on to the overall of episode 49. As I said I thought it was pretty good and only way they could have beat Long. I think however it was a bit rushed and not as powerful of a ending as I had hope. Episode 47 was crazy good, if the series had ended at episode 47 I would have been okay with it. However it seems like in away the series was met to end around 47 and everything else was just over the top and not needed. However, the case, I think thats just because when you look at episode 48 and 49 vs 47, 47 is far better action wise. It has that ending feel to it.
I had a feeling that Melle was going to die near the end and I figure Rio may too, but didn't think it happen in the same episode and didn't think their deaths would basically be in vain. Even know Rio past on to the rangers the rin to seal Long. What I kind of wonder is if he knew at that point long could not be killed and only way to beat him would be to seal him, why didn't he just help the Gekirangers stop him final form and then seal him. But again when I think about it, Rio didn't want to live anyways. He had cause lot of pain and finally found a reason to live (Mele) and she died so he had no more will to live. To bad too as I was hoping for a GeikiRinTojaWolf formation. But I think we're getting that in the Geki vs Bouken movie. I was also upset just a little that both Gou and Ken kind of where left out of the ending a bit. Ken was just walking around doing nothing and Gou's new attack was used twice and never seen again. I think it would have been cool if he had at least try it again Long when him and Ken face Long before the others got there to seal him.
Overall the series is by far the best sentai I've seen. I've only seen fully from Bouken and I loved Bouken. I'm going to miss it, can't wait to see the movies in the future and look forward to Go-on.
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Tendou Souji
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 Re: GekiRanger 49 released
Neckar Unrivaled wrote: Episode 47 was crazy good, if the series had ended at episode 47 I would have been okay with it. I think it is too simple if they end in episode 47 because the good guys finished them off easily. This will make the show have a happy ending but without a climax scene. I am ok with their way to seal long in the last episode but just unsatisfy with the way they learn it. I wonder why a secret technique can be learn in not more than 30 minutes. However I like their triangle fighting in the last episode, they keep switching each other and fight, that's very nice.Neckar Unrivaled wrote: Ken was just walking around doing nothing and Gou's new attack was used twice and never seen again. Ken and Gou fighted with long when 3 of them learning the secret technique not doing nothing. And Gou's new attack is useless on Rio therefore he dun think it will work on long. That's why he never use it. This is my opinion, it is ok if u dun agree with me.
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Neckar Unrivaled
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Yeah I see what you mean about 47. I was saying if it was design to end on 47, I would have been find with it. If anything 48 could have ended it. It just seem to me that 49, it ended half way into it and the rest was just what happens after words, I wish it was a little longer into how they beat him/learning the sealing technique. That's why I question it, if Rio had knew that technique or at least how to gain it. Why didn't he tell them about it first before even going into die against Long, he had to know he couldn't be killed.
As for Gou and Ken, I mean that yeah they did fight off and hold off long while they learn the new technique in like 10mins. But it just seem that once the others show up they where sideline. It seem as it got near the end both characters took a back seat in the plot only being used when the core 3 where busy else where. Out of the two Gou had the most character development, while Ken, some on other sites question if he was even needed in the series and his screen time been given to Gou. IDK thought, kind of a mute point to question now.
On Gou's new attack, maybe that's why. We'll never know. However the reason it didn't work on Rio was because he show it to Rio and there for Rio was able to block it. It was thought to be the best technique out of all of them and the hardest to learn. So it just seems that what little build they did for it fell flat. He could have tried it against Long, who's to know if Long saw him do it before and was able to counter it. And even if he did counter it, he still tried it. Other then making it out to be this powerful ultimate technique and then only use it twice and because one person block it, you'll never try it again. That's not saying it would have done nothing but slow Long down or more so just annoy him to now end.
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pinchekame
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Well you have to love how people differ in opinions...
As per all the above arguments, I don't think any particular ending would have satisfied everybody...for some people, the epilogue at the end of ep. 49 is true closure to a great story, while others may have viewed as too much info and not a lot of action.
As for the final fight with long...i think the duration of the fight was good. Keep in mind that they arleady beat long in his regular form once in ep. 47, then rio beat his true form in ep. 48 with his ultimate sacrifice...so to have another long drawn out battle with long in his regular form again in ep. 49 wouldn't make too much sense.
In addition, just because the episode is 24 minutes long, it does not follow that the content in the episode takes place in that same time frame. For all we know, it could have taken Jan, Ran, and Retsu a long time to master that final technique. But for tv purposes, they have to pass time quickly to portray the whole story. If you want training to last a long time and numerous episodes, watch Dragon Ball Z.
So if Rio knew the sealing technique, why didn't he just teach it to the gekirangers? The answer is simple:
1.) Rio didn't know long's true intentions until episode 46, and then became an emotional mess when he figured out he was just a pawn. 2.) In episode 47, Rio, Mele, and Jan-tachi seemingly "killed" Long with GekiRinSaidaiOh so they didn't anticipate his return. 3.) In episode 48, Rio & Mele were already committed to sacrificing their lives to atone for their sins...and when Long revealed himself to be alived, Mele was killed almost instantaneously; which affected Rio's emotions. Also in the midst of battle, one has to react to their situation on the spot. Rio did what he could in the last moments of his life, pass on Rinki to Jan, Ran, and Retsu...and hope that they could figure the solution on their own. Maybe Rio knew that by passing his Rinki to the Geki-triangle, that the events of the astral RinJyuDen hall would take place.
Great series...I am sad to see it end.
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takenoko
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I hear a lot of complaints that Rio sacrificed himself for nothing, but I'm not sure how valid they are. Rio and Mele had intended to sacrifice themselves at the Kendan, so they would have died either way. And just because Long says he's invincible doesn't mean they should just give up and go "oh, he's immortal, let's give up and go home guys". Continuing to fight despite knowing that is what made Rio's death heroic.
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| Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:23 pm |
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Tendou Souji
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Rio also said "wait for me" to Mele. It shows that he really wan to sacrifice himself. And I agree, the last fight should last longer. As for Gou and Ken, they can't cooperate with Jan-tachi in their triangle, and they are hurt after they hold off long when Jan-tachi is training.
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Neckar Unrivaled
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True, just because the episode itself was 24 mins doesn't mean it took them less time to learn the technique. And no I didn't want it to drag on either. My only issue with how fast they learn the technique was that not only did they learn it in a dream state, learned a powerful technique but also used it once and got it right on the first try. With Long attacking the city and Gou and Ken beasically getting their butts kicked, I don't think they had any more then 2 hours at best away from the action.
I understand that Rio didn't really know Longs true plans until episode 46. Kind of funny how it worked out. Up until the point that Long reappeared, Rio basically was going to keep that technique to himself even know he and Melle where going to sacrifice themselves. So the way it worked out is kind of funny.
I don't really see his sacrificing himself to Long being left for nothing. At first shot, yeah you could say he did it just to die as he had nothing else to live for. On the other hand I think he had a clear idea that he could destroy Long's true form, in which then Jan and co could seal him. Maybe being in his final form made sealing him not an option. I was really hoping to see SaiDaiGekiRinTouja one more time, Maybe even a SaiDaiGekiRinFire. I know the toys happen but not sure about the way it work in the show, I don't see why not. I also wanted to at least see once GeikiRinToujaWolf, I think we're getting that in the Team up movie however.
I am however wondering how Long breaks out, as in the Team Up movie with Go-on I'm sure Long will be one of the bad guys. If so I wonder how they're going to beat him there or if he'll just be seal away some where again. I loved the show, the ending was good, I wanted to see more fighting near the end with everyone maybe even one more giant battle.
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Phoenix512
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 Re: GekiRanger 49 released
I think the sealing technique require three people to use it. How would Rio use it since he was short one person to do it?
Rio's sacrifice wasn't necessary to destroy Long but more like going out on his own terms.
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Wyvern
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I wanted to see more fighting near the end with everyone maybe even one more giant battle
same here.. I wondered to myself why Long didn't just become Mugenryuu again since the Gekirangers were having a hard time with that form.
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Tendou Souji
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I really wan to see Long get smashed into pieces instead of sealing hahas
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| Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:56 pm |
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Neckar Unrivaled
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Well you could almost say they had issues in his normal form, so being the bad guy he was figure that his normal monster form would be all he needed. Even right up to the point they seal him. He was like "I'll just come back" he had no idea that they where going to seal him not try to destroy him anymore at least not until the last min, but then it was too late.
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Wyvern
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Long wasn't as bored as if he claimed then if he rather fight in his ShiGensou form, IMO
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lycan
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I finally saw the last episode a couple of nights ago...I've been busy with college classes and finally had the time to watch it. A great ending to a great show. Thank to you guys for subbing it. ^_^
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DarkRobin
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Personally, I am confused about how I myself feel about the end.
I absolutely like the plot of ending the series with rejoining the two JyuKen schools. But they the part where they decided to keep Long alive but sealed got me mixed feelings. In a way it's fitting so instead of destroy a immortal, they sealed him, giving the series a possible open ending (one I hope they will continue with)
But the finale doesn't impress me enough to feel an exciting last episode.
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mlai7891
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Looks like three kenma got their revenge on Long. They probably would be laughing in their graves about what happened to Long.
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