Rescue Fire is not a Sentai ripoff

[takenoko]

Okay, a lot of people have been saying lately that Rescue Fire is a Sentai ripoff, especially with the last couple of episodes released.

But is it really? I would argue that it's not and that the people who are saying that are just making kneejerk reactionary statements without really thinking it thoroughly

To clarify, Rescue Fire does admittedly share a lot of attributes that you can find in a Sentai series, but no more so than any other anime or toku where you have a bunch of colorful heroes fighting monsters of the week. One certainly couldn't say that Rescue Fire at least has its own type of flavor for story and action

And suppose it is a ripoff. What does that actually mean? Does that mean that it's not good on its own merits? I'm thinking that the people that think it's a ripoff don't actually like the series and are just using that is an excuse to back their opinion. It's not the actual reason, but it's the one that they're coming up with. If ripoffs were a problem, people would go "oh, this sentai series is a ripoff of the 30something series that came before that, that's no good" which would be silly

[Ninja_Commander]

I completely agree with you man. Rescue Fire is not a sentai, yes it shares some elements but what show doesn't these days. It makes itself different just based on its presented and told to the people watching.

I like this series cause it is different and can somehow find the balance needed for itself. So for all you people who say its a ripoff, trying looking around more and then you will see what he means.

[bigjim283]

I believe Spinoff is more appropriate than rippoff. Rescue Force had five heroes and a monster of the week. Sailor Moon too. Most toku shows do. I think Rescue fire is more so than others. And even Sentai doesn't follow the same formula time after time. Watch enough toku, and it'll all start blending together.

[Shado Kabuto]

Yeah Rescue Fire has some familiarities of a Sentai series but this show is a about rescues nothing more nothing less.

[takenoko]

I wouldn't call it a spinoff because I think that's more like a sequel. Like Fire is a spinoff of Force. The Cleaveland show is a spinoff of Family Guy. There has to be some preexisting relation beforehand

[Astro Guyver]

Well isnt Sentai a genre? Liek sci-fi or Horror? Gatchaman is considered sentai, is that a rip off cause I think it came out first. I could be wrong. anything with a 'squad' of people with suits can be considered sentai I guess and if they have a giant robot I think then its super sentai.

[takenoko]

Well isnt Sentai a genre?

Nope. That'd be like literally saying "is any show with a team in it a genre?"

When people talk about sentai here, they're specifically referring to the Toei created show and whatever tropes that are associated with it

[wanmoke]

Okay, wow, I didn't expect this to actually turn into a discussion.

I feel like I would have been happy if they had stopped at Rescue Force. I thought Rescue Force was an original idea, the thought of using vehicles in order to stop some strange extreme disaster. Then I start watching Rescue Fire... and I just feel let down. I don't necessarily hate the series; I just feel that like most sequels/spinoffs, this one feels more like they're using the tried and true formula to squeeze out the fifty episodes.

[Battra]

What I liked about Rescue Force was it was new and refreshing, it presented some very good idea's and well developed plots. They weren't afraid to keep you guessing on what happened next, a good example would be just when it was starting to fall into the same groove of Crisis Maker of the day, what did they do they killed off the 3 executives of Neo Terror & brought in someone new who it turned out actually worked as the original R1 and what was his 1st act he turned an entire city into a desert in front of the teams eyes no saving the day this time.

Do we get any of those fresh idea's in Rescue Fire sure we do we get a team that is actually ready to combat the the villains, that have actually been upgraded so they can better do their job of rescuing people, we get a strong female lead in a toku series one that isn't a rehash of Rei & Juri from the previous season, and that i'm afraid is were all the creativity ends. Tatsuya & Yuma are just copy's of their previous seasons counter parts, add to that a cute mascot in the form of Q-Suke (Bomper, Peebo (Bioman), Arthur G6 (Fiveman) etc.). The villains started out interesting but they quickly degenerated into your typical villains form a typical sentai series send out a monster & have it defeated handily by the team with out so much as a struggle, even more so that they've become alot like the 3 villains form Go-Onger, bumbling idiots who can't seem to do anything right. Let's talk the new team which is blatantly ripped straight from the Go-On Wings crew,their weapons are both the same except the Sky Team has swords instead of daggers, both team have a jet and helicopter, both teams were start out as arrogant, when Ishigoro joined the team in Rescue Force they gave him a very good character flaw in that he would lose restraint when he turns into R5.

To finish things off I don't mind rip offs if they do it in interesting ways heck i'll admit that Rescue Force did do a little ripping off of Go Go V, but it wasn't so obvious as it is in Rescue Fire, heck the team this season hardly even does any "rescuing" anymore most of their on screen time is shown kicking monster butt, where's as Rescue Force actually concentrated alot on the rescue aspect, Rescue Fire would rather degenerate into using stuff already done by Sentai and present it in a obvious way that makes it look like a ripoff. As stated above when Rescue Fire premiered the team was already set to fight their villains just like any good sentai team, whereas Rescue Force's primary job was to Rescue people, not fight a evil organization that wants to reset the world. What I mainly got a problem with is the lazy writing that has gone into this season especially coming off of such a great previous season, the writer's have made know attempt to freshen up the series instead their happy to take what Toei has already done and present it as their own, which makes Rescue Fire into a generic Sentai season.

[Arigomi]

Rescue Force was very original but in some ways, but there were problems associated with straying too far from the beaten path. Keeping the audience guessing about what direction the show would take didn't build up any suspense for the final battle. There is a lot of trial and error involved when trying to be original. As a result, Rescue Force tended to vary a lot in the quality of the episodes.

There are infinite ideas for stories but that doesn't mean that all of them are good ideas. The writers for Rescue Fire understand this and decided that this series would follow more of a story arc structure so that the quality can have some consistency. The writers simply wanted a solid base from which to build their original ideas upon.

Unlike Sentai, Rescue Fire members actively seek to contain the damage to the city. The Tri-Basher's Extinguisher Mode is there for a reason.

[perdomot]

Rescue Force was about rescues which is why they didn't use weapons. Rescue Fire is about merchandising. When I saw the Tri Bashers Gun and Sword Modes, I knew they had abandoned the concept of rescue workers and switched over to the sentai model. Rescue Force started the trend when they introduced the Rescue Max Robot combi but Fire has taken it to a whole other level.

[Lunagel]

When I first saw Rescue Force, I didn't think sentai at all. I thought "World's Longest Toy Commercial"

Rescue Fire is Sentai the same way Sentai is Kamen Rider. They have similarities, but are incredibly different.

[Crimzonite]

Reminds me of people who call almost every magical girl anime a "Sailormoon rip off". It's a subgenre, of course it has shared aspects.

[takenoko]

Rescue Force was about rescues which is why they didn't use weapons. Rescue Fire is about merchandising.

I feel like this can be said about any toku currently running

When I saw the Tri Bashers Gun and Sword Modes, I knew they had abandoned the concept of rescue workers and switched over to the sentai model..

Again, what is the sentai model? I mean, I remember commenting when Rescue Fire started airing that I appreciated the fact that they started using actual weapons, because the combat was an integrated part of the show. They still do a lot of rescuing and a lot of fire fighting, but with all these monsters that they have to take out... I'm glad they can shoot or cut them up instead of relying on a hammer or some work tool. It's just all sorts of logicalness

[Sloth MD]

Well, all shows under this Genre would be Sentai Ripoffs, using the 'logic' that most people are trying to use. :/

The only time I was like "LOL, COPY CATS." Was in episode 14, where the Sky Team comes in and pulls off a Go-On wings first entrance... the helicopter did nothing to help that.

Though I do like Rescue Fire a little bit better than Sentai in some suit aspects, because Rescue 3 doesn't have the mandatory skirt on her suit that most heroines would have in these kinds of shows.